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Keyar disaster. After
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the Republican Georgia governor thanks President
0:37
Biden for rushing relief to storm
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ravaged states. The president just
0:41
called me yesterday afternoon and
0:43
he just said, hey, what do you need? The
0:46
former president drops in and lies
0:48
about the White House response. The
0:50
governor's doing a very good job. He's having a
0:52
hard time getting the president on the phone. I
0:54
guess they're not, they're not
0:56
being responsive. Is Trump trying to
0:59
score points in the polls at a
1:01
time when politics should be put aside?
1:03
He's lying. And the governor told
1:05
him he was lying. Then,
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SNL alum Kate McKinnon is
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live to talk about how
1:12
she's helping girls find their
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inner mad scientist. Plus,
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the disability rights activist at the heart
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of the new doc betreased the movie,
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shares her love story and how a shocking
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lapse in U.S. health care. If you get
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married and you're collecting a Social Security benefit,
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your benefit will be cut. Is
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stopping her from living happily ever
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after? Here
1:35
come hot topics with
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Whoopi. Sarah
1:41
Haines. Anna
1:46
Navarro. Joy
1:49
Behar. Sunny
1:53
Hostin. And
1:56
Alyssa Sarah Griffin. Now,
2:00
let's get things started. I
2:30
see my uncle, I'm feeling beautiful.
2:34
Oh, I love, I love, I love
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the space of the world. Oh, I
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love you. Yes,
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you are. All right. Hello,
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hello, hello, and welcome to The
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View. I just need
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to wipe my teeth because I'm sure there's something
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on here. You can see. No, no, no, no.
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No, you're good. They're good. So
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local, federal, state, what?
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No, go back. No,
3:08
that's what it said. Local, state, and federal.
3:10
Oh, god. Help has been
3:12
swift to help the storm ravage
3:15
southeast. President Biden
3:17
signed off on disaster relief
3:19
before Hurricane Helene made landfall.
3:22
Now, Republican governors like
3:24
George's Brian Kemp are
3:26
putting politics aside by
3:28
thanking him for his
3:31
rapid response, unlike the
3:33
one who isn't president. And
3:37
never will, basically. OK. That's
3:45
a good way to say it. Well,
3:47
it's really important to remind people that
3:49
this man is not the president. He
3:52
has nothing to do with what
3:54
presidents are getting done. And
3:56
I'm just a little sick and tired of
3:59
him acting like he's something to say, but
4:01
who am I? Okay, who am
4:03
I? You are one with a microphone. So
4:06
I want you to take a look at this clip.
4:09
Maybe you'll understand why I'm so annoyed. Yeah. The
4:11
president just called me yesterday afternoon. I missed
4:14
him and called him right back. And
4:16
he just said, hey, what do you need? And
4:18
I told him, you know, we got what we
4:21
need. We'll work through the federal process. He offered
4:23
that if there's no other things we need, just
4:25
to call him directly, which I appreciate
4:27
that. The governor's doing a very good job.
4:30
He's having a hard time getting the president
4:32
on the phone. I guess they're not being
4:34
responsive. I haven't reached out to him now.
4:38
I think he's sleeping right now. Let me get in
4:40
the street. He's lying. And the
4:42
governor told him he was lying. The
4:44
governor told me he was lying. I've spoken to
4:47
the governor. I've spent time with him, and he
4:49
told me he's lying. I don't know why he
4:51
does this, but it's simply not true, and it's
4:53
irresponsible. Yeah. And not
4:55
only did his pointless
4:58
photo op take up needed
5:01
resources away from actually
5:03
helping people, he
5:06
straight up lied again
5:09
to Americans. Now,
5:11
I just, I have to
5:13
just keep saying, is
5:16
the GOP brain dead?
5:20
How can they allow him
5:22
to continue to act
5:24
as if he is in charge?
5:27
And I hate looking at you, because it makes
5:29
it feel like I'm directing it at you, but
5:32
you're the only person I can ask, what the
5:34
hell's going on? I
5:36
watched this clip, and I can't believe after
5:38
four years of time away from
5:40
him, this is still what we want. Governor
5:42
Brian Kemp, a popular Republican governor of Georgia,
5:44
is someone I could totally support for president.
5:46
He's able to show up. He's able to
5:49
work across the aisle, praise Joe Biden when
5:51
he needs it. But instead, we're going with
5:53
this buffoon who never misses the opportunity to
5:55
politicize a tragedy. And you said something important.
5:57
I've been to more natural disaster visits than
5:59
most. I travel a lot
6:01
with Vice President Pence. The emergency managers on
6:03
the ground, the first thing they'll tell you
6:06
is they don't want VIP visits in the
6:08
initial aftermath. It takes police resources, it puts
6:10
a strain on the recovery efforts. But
6:13
we know Donald Trump showed up because Georgia
6:15
and North Carolina are critical battleground states. What
6:17
we should want in leaders are people who
6:19
are gonna care just as much about North
6:21
Carolina and Georgia if they don't vote for
6:23
them and after the election. He shows up
6:26
because he thinks he knows. He
6:29
asked him things, remember what a disaster he
6:31
was in the last when he was president. But I
6:33
mean he thinks because he slept with someone named Stormy
6:35
that he's a weather expert. But
6:39
besides that, the guy,
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I wanna just remind people what he did
6:43
when they were to slow things down. He
6:46
slowed things down for blue states. In
6:48
the early initial days of COVID, he
6:51
did not send help to blue states.
6:53
He will do that again if he
6:55
ever becomes president. Please, no. Well
6:57
in times of tragedy when lives are
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being lost, there's at least 130 people
7:01
have died across six states, 600
7:04
people are unaccounted for. You literally
7:06
put the privilege of politics aside.
7:08
This is an all hands on deck
7:10
operation. So while Donald Trump is spouting
7:13
that the president and Vice President
7:15
Harris have sent one million liters of water,
7:17
more than 600 meals, 3,500 federal response personnel,
7:21
600 more arriving, 40 Starlink
7:23
satellites, they see cargo planes full of
7:26
food, water, and other commodities, and they
7:28
ask the leaders, you let
7:30
us know when it's a good time to be
7:32
there. This is not the time for a sound
7:34
bite. And what it reminds me of is, Alyssa,
7:36
you were saying yesterday, Donald
7:38
Trump's MO is purely fear
7:41
based politics. People have lost
7:43
their lives, they've lost their homes, they have
7:45
nothing. They lost their family members. And
7:47
their pets and everything. To tell them in
7:49
their most dire moments that no one's coming
7:51
for you is just for them. It will
7:53
happen again if project 2025 goes into effect.
7:57
They want to eliminate FEMA, the weather. The
8:00
service, the employment of education, anything
8:02
that helps us. But to
8:04
Sarah's point, what I hate about
8:06
this is he's politicizing tragedy. And
8:10
you know, my father lives in Florida. He
8:12
can't return to his home. His home, all
8:15
the floors are destroyed, right? And
8:18
so he's living with friends. He's gonna come to New York
8:20
and live with me. This is
8:22
a tragedy. People have lost their lives. And
8:25
I love what be the way you said when
8:27
he was president. That
8:30
he's not president because when he was president,
8:32
as Joy mentioned, he was a
8:34
disaster during disasters. He
8:37
threatened to withhold money from governors of blue
8:39
states, whom he saw as enemies. He
8:42
proposed cutting the budget of the
8:44
agency responsible for disaster relief, FEMA,
8:47
and his top officials diverted that
8:49
money away from FEMA to
8:52
deal with immigration enforcement during
8:54
natural disasters. FEMA was
8:56
understaffed throughout the Trump administration. And
8:59
finally, he withheld and delayed, and
9:01
I take this personally, $20 billion
9:05
in hurricane eight to Puerto Rico, and
9:07
then also threatened to withhold wildfire assistance to
9:09
California. So if you live in a blue
9:11
state, you will be screwed if anything happens
9:14
to you. If anything happens to you. Or
9:16
a red state that he doesn't vote for
9:18
immediately. Or a red state that he has
9:20
to pay. But then it's not a red
9:22
state. And it doesn't matter if he votes.
9:24
He doesn't know how to lead. He's not
9:26
gonna be able to provide resources to him.
9:28
He's not the president right now. And I'm
9:30
sick of people calling him Mr. President. I'm
9:32
sick of it. He's not the president. He
9:34
has not been presidential. He has not offered
9:36
the American people a hand, a
9:39
kind word. I'm
9:41
sorry. It's
9:44
really important that we all get out and
9:46
vote. And you vote how you vote, okay?
9:48
You vote how you vote. Try
9:52
to do it. But I'm begging
9:54
you. I'm
9:56
begging you. Don't vote
9:59
against your own. best
10:01
interests. This man has
10:03
not done anything for he didn't
10:05
sign those checks out of the
10:08
goodness of his art. No. He
10:10
did not do any of those
10:12
things that people have put it
10:14
in their minds. He sent me
10:16
a check. He didn't. He didn't.
10:19
Congress in Utah. And he treated the,
10:21
there was an official, and you may
10:23
even know the person, it's a former
10:25
administration official. He said that Trump treated
10:27
streams of money for
10:30
disasters as a pot of
10:32
cash for him to dole out as he
10:34
saw fit depending on how he personally was
10:36
treated. And shout out to FEMA, one of
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the most effective agencies I ever worked with
10:40
in government. Don't cut their funding, support them.
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Yes. Support FEMA. Who knows what
10:45
we're going to need it. But
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we want to tell you this, to
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find out how you can help those
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impacted by Hurricane Helene. You
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need to go to our website. And when you're
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MAGA. Take a look.
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We are going to take back
14:16
this country. We are going to make it
14:18
great again. Within my industry, as you can
14:20
probably imagine, Hollywood is a very, very liberal
14:22
town, and this very well could constitute career
14:24
suicide. So,
14:26
okay. That's
14:30
not necessarily true. From
14:34
the beginning of Hollywood, there have been, it's
14:37
always been a very right leaning town,
14:39
but I know you don't know much
14:41
about the Hollywood history, so let me
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school you. We
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are like America as
14:48
we're mixed. We're a mixed bunch,
14:51
and sometimes it may seem like
14:53
there's more Democrats, and sometimes it
14:55
seems like there's more Republicans,
14:59
but the truth of the matter is, very
15:01
few people seem to
15:03
bite it because they're Republican.
15:06
John Voight, who is working.
15:09
Dennis Quaid. Dennis Quaid, who is
15:12
working. People are working, stop that.
15:14
It's more BS, and it's unnecessary.
15:17
Chavarrona, she said she got a lot
15:19
of backlash, and she was overwhelming for
15:21
her, and it can be. It
15:24
can be. So the question they
15:26
have here is, a celebrity endorsement
15:28
bound to piss someone off? Yes, wasn't
15:31
it? Because you got a 50-50
15:33
chance of stepping in full. This
15:38
chapel wrong girl, she
15:40
is on the fence. She doesn't know, she just doesn't
15:42
know what to do. She was
15:44
just gonna vote for Vice President Harris.
15:46
But it's a faint praise, and I
15:48
feel as though she's part of the
15:51
LGBTQ community, and she
15:53
should know that the other side
15:55
is anti-transgender, they're anti-gay rights.
15:57
They will probably, if he gets into office,
16:00
God forbid, they will roll back
16:02
their marriage. I mean, she needs to know
16:04
that. She has an issue though with the
16:06
current administration's politics in the Middle East. I
16:08
actually disagree with her on this point, but
16:10
that's why she didn't feel comfortable endorsing her.
16:12
And this is the problem they put celebrities
16:14
in. If you are a politically active, any
16:16
human citizen, whether you're a celebrity or anything
16:18
else, I point it purposely here. I see.
16:21
You know, you can do what you feel comfortable with,
16:23
but when people do these gotcha moments in interviews, I'm
16:25
like, what have we done? Half of their audience is
16:27
gonna hate them at the end of whatever their answer
16:30
is. And they're here to
16:32
entertain. As Reba McIntyre once said, I am here
16:34
to bring people together through art. So I
16:37
don't mind when people speak up if they
16:39
feel passionately, but we should be not forcing
16:41
the hand. No, we're in an emergency. We're
16:43
in an emergency in this country. This is
16:45
not Eisenhower years. But I do think if
16:47
your art is great, it speaks for itself.
16:49
Like, Chaperone is incredible. She's not gonna lose
16:52
fans over this. This is just, that is
16:54
a fact. I'm not as familiar with the
16:56
other actor, but if you've got the skill,
16:58
you're going to be fine. I think we
17:00
put this undue pressure that people have to come out
17:02
and endorse just because they have a platform. You can
17:05
speak on issues you care about that you might be
17:07
personally really involved in and that you care more about.
17:09
It's just, it ends up being a lose-lose and then
17:11
we dissect everything that they say. I'm
17:14
gonna disagree because I think that
17:16
we are at an inflection point
17:18
in our country. This
17:21
election matters more than any
17:23
election of my lifetime. We
17:25
may not have elections after
17:28
this election if the former
17:30
president wins. And so if you have
17:32
a platform and you are willing to
17:34
use it, heavy is the head
17:36
that wears the crown. I don't
17:38
care who you're endorsing. I don't care
17:40
if you're endorsing the former president. I
17:43
don't care if you're endorsing Madam Vice
17:45
President, but I do care if you're
17:47
not engaged. Well, she endorsed her. She
17:49
said she would do it. Listen, people
17:52
have all kinds of reasons. People
17:54
have all kinds of reasons to
17:57
do as much as they are comfortable doing.
18:00
because it is very dangerous out there. People get
18:02
smacked in the face by people. We get it
18:04
all the time. Yeah, we get it all the
18:06
time, but those folks who
18:08
are new to this don't
18:11
know how this goes. They have no
18:13
idea. So I'm gonna just simply say,
18:16
you are not, you don't have to say
18:18
what you want to do. But you should
18:20
vote. We should vote. If you decide that
18:22
you want to speak up, speak up and
18:24
speak up, because that's, you're proud to say
18:26
this is where I am. If you're not
18:28
there, I get it. But
18:30
you can't sit back and not vote, which
18:32
no one has said. Yeah. No one
18:34
has said they're not voting. So, everybody
18:37
in the audience, everybody who's watching, lighten
18:39
up on people. Okay, just lighten up.
18:41
They're just trying to be, just
18:44
trying to be, lighten up. You
18:46
know? We
18:48
take it, we take a lot of stuff
18:50
that isn't ours to take, but we take
18:52
it. But when you're dealing with the young
18:54
ones who have just gotten there, lighten up
18:56
on them. Let them get a chance to
18:59
figure out who they are and what they
19:01
actually believe. And we know that's true because
19:03
we come and we go. Mm-hmm. Like
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the wind. We'll be right
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Welcome back. 37-year-old
19:41
reality star, Kristen
19:43
Cavallari, just
19:46
cleared up speculation about
19:48
why she broke off
19:50
things with 24-year-old TikTok
19:53
influencer, Mark Estes. Thank
19:57
you. Take
20:01
a look. He's been the best boyfriend
20:03
I've ever had. I just
20:06
know long term,
20:09
he needs to experience life. I look
20:11
back when I was 24 and
20:13
how much life has happened for me in between then.
20:15
And I mean, those
20:18
are crucial years. Those
20:21
are formative years. This is
20:23
when you find yourself and I actually think
20:25
one day he will thank me. I'll
20:27
tell you what, I'll tell you what
20:30
his mother is thinking her. His
20:39
frontal lobe is not even developed. And
20:42
she's got a 12 year old, a 10 year old and an 8 year
20:44
old. That
20:47
20, yes ma'am. And
20:50
that 24 year old young man
20:53
cannot be responsible for a 12 year old, a
20:55
10 year old and an 8 year old. Kristin,
20:59
what's the name? Kristin. 24 year old guys
21:01
do not grow on trees. Okay,
21:04
who cares if he's not worldly?
21:07
Can he find your G-spot? That's what we need
21:09
to know. And also, let
21:12
me say something. I always
21:14
have young, my husband is 7 years younger than
21:16
me. I had a boyfriend who
21:18
couldn't pronounce any net words but he was so
21:20
good. He was 10 years younger than me. You
21:23
want somebody to wheel you around. You
21:25
don't want to be a nurse
21:27
to somebody. Go for the younger guys ladies.
21:29
She said it was the best sex she
21:32
ever had. It might not be
21:34
the season of daddy, but it is. The
21:36
girl is at her sexual peak at 40 and
21:38
he's at his at 24. Go
21:41
for it. Don't be stupid.
21:44
Okay, whatever you decide to do,
21:46
keep it to yourself. We'll be
21:48
right back. You're
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you for having me. I'd like
23:00
to begin tonight by attempting a
23:02
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23:09
it. We're going to demand that we look at all
23:11
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23:13
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23:15
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23:18
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23:22
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23:25
a third-degree Ginsburg. After
23:34
years of stealing the show as one
23:36
of the longest-running cast members on SNL,
23:40
the considerable talents of
23:42
Emmy-winning actor-comedian, fascinating woman
23:44
Kate McKernan are on
23:46
full display in her
23:48
debut novel for young
23:50
readers. It's called
23:52
the Millicent Quibb School of
23:55
Etiquette for Young Girls of
23:57
Mad Science. Please
24:00
welcome the most fabulous, Kate
24:02
McKinnon. Yes! Please,
24:27
tell them. I'm going to tell her
24:29
I'm safe. Um... It's
24:31
my first... Yeah. I'm
24:36
sorry, I had to kiss every... It's rude not to kiss.
24:39
It's my first time at The View. I'm a
24:41
virgin. Be gentle. Bye. Thank
24:43
you. The first thing you're going to get
24:46
from The View is a little cold. Okay,
24:48
that's what I got. So, heads up. No
24:50
problem. Too late. I'll take
24:52
it. So worth getting me from you,
24:54
too. Okay. You're magnificent,
24:56
by the way. You too. We
24:58
all love you on SNL. And...
25:02
You're phenomenal. Your impressions were always spot on. So
25:05
can you tell me, what's the key to a good impression,
25:07
and did you ever have a favorite one? There
25:11
he is. Seems
25:15
the key is dancing, you know. And I... Yes,
25:18
well, I loved doing impressions, but
25:20
my favorite ones did always involve
25:22
dancing. So like Ruth Bader Ginsburg,
25:25
Justin Bieber. I just... It's
25:27
if you can just find a reason to move,
25:30
you know. It's fun. It's fun
25:32
for everyone. Yeah. Do you study
25:35
a long time and like sound, like when you try
25:37
to get the voice, like go back and forth with
25:39
the TV? I do study. I study a lot, but
25:41
then it's always just one little snippet of something. Like
25:44
with Hillary Clinton, there was this
25:46
one moment, I couldn't get it, and then there was this...
25:49
She did this thing with her arms for two
25:51
seconds in a clip, one clip like this. And
25:53
I was... That's it.
25:55
So, you know, watch out. Rudy with the
25:57
hands, you were great. Yeah. So,
26:01
Kate, the view has been spoofed quite a
26:03
bit on SNL. Yes, it has. Normally,
26:08
Whoopi and I are portrayed by men. But
26:13
you... I
26:19
mean, it was actually thrilling for me
26:22
to see an actual female do me,
26:24
this watch. Okay,
26:26
so my turn? Yeah. Hot
26:28
take alert. I don't like
26:30
Trump. Trump, Trump, what a chump. Trump,
26:32
Trump, what a dump. Okay, look, it's my 2000th show
26:35
at this point. I get paid by the word. Well,
26:43
you know, they say you haven't made it until
26:45
you're spoofed by Kate McKinnon. Well...
26:47
So there you have it. That was... That
26:51
was the... It was the day before I wanted
26:53
to do... I wanted to do the most fabulous Joy
26:55
Behar that had ever been done. I
26:58
just didn't have... You know, sometimes it didn't...
27:00
It just doesn't come... Like, with the Rudy
27:02
Giuliani. Yeah. That was
27:04
like a Friday night. They were like,
27:06
you're doing Rudy tomorrow. I was like, no. Really?
27:08
No. No.
27:11
A step too far. What do you
27:14
think of me? What do you think I look like? What
27:16
are you saying? Anyway, I did it. It
27:19
was okay. I adore you
27:21
and I... It was an
27:23
honor. Well, I thank you, but you didn't... You
27:25
had to top... So what? Who cares? You
27:28
had to top that. So that must have been
27:30
daunting also. It was incredibly daunting. There was a
27:32
lot... You know... Yes. You
27:34
nailed it at the Trump... Trump. Oh,
27:36
Joy Behar. That's it. That's
27:38
about right. That sketch
27:40
was written by people who really know and love
27:42
the show. And they really nailed it. They really...
27:44
And they hate them too. So... I heard
27:48
that when you were a kid, there
27:50
was someone else from the view that you would
27:52
impersonate at school to get left. Who was
27:54
that? Oh, yes. So this was in the
27:56
era... I grew up in the Cheri Oteri
27:58
Anagaster, Malachandran era of S.T. You know, and
28:01
obviously Shariot Terry did this fabulous
28:04
Barbara Walters that I
28:06
then did in middle school. Yeah.
28:09
I love it. Everyone
28:11
loved this Barbara Walters impression at
28:14
my middle school. And it's my
28:16
first, come on. I
28:19
don't, all I remember was they
28:21
did, the theme
28:23
song of the view was, here comes
28:25
a view, I'm totally new, this
28:28
is the view, I'm in my birthday
28:30
suit. I will never, I'll
28:32
never forget it. This
28:34
was, that was the queen of my
28:37
heart. She would do it like a,
28:39
you've interviewed, I've interviewed world leaders and
28:41
you're one of them, but why the
28:43
porn? Shariot would
28:45
do it, that's what Shariot. We
28:48
miss Barbara. Yes, I miss Barbara. Well,
28:51
we'll talk about your fabulous new book. What?
28:55
Right, right, right? Shall
28:57
we talk about that? Shall we? Because
29:01
it's truly fabulous. I finished a
29:04
book. Fabulous book. I wrote it,
29:06
I can't believe I finished it. It's a
29:08
fabulous book, it's called The Millicent Quibb School
29:10
of Etiquette for Young Ladies of Math Science.
29:12
Yes. Thank you, all the
29:14
things. Now when you're talking
29:16
about actually finishing it, you started it years
29:18
ago, even before you started at SNL. So
29:21
it's been in the works. Yes, it's been like 12
29:23
years. For 12 years. My
29:25
question is, why did you wanna start and
29:30
target middle school readers? Because
29:32
they're horrible little people at
29:34
that age. Oh. No,
29:38
they're not. I see. They're
29:40
lovely, middle school people are great.
29:43
No, no, two reasons. A, I
29:46
love magic, I love Roald Dahl, I
29:48
love Lemmy Snicket, I love all that
29:50
stuff. And then I also, I believe
29:52
in young people and I believe that
29:54
if you inspire them to
29:58
just be themselves, then. and they can go
30:00
on to create actual change in the world.
30:03
And we can. Yeah. Yeah. That's
30:06
my favorite genre of literature. Yeah.
30:08
And it's wonderful that it's about
30:10
girls and science. I love that.
30:12
Girls and science, it's important. Yeah.
30:15
Let's get to that. I like that a lot. I
30:17
like that a lot. Now,
30:19
you said the book was inspired by your own
30:21
childhood and you dedicated it to your mother. I
30:23
did, yes. What were you like as
30:25
a kid? Oh, I know. I know.
30:28
I love you, Mama. My
30:30
mom. I'm pretty. I know, she's gorgeous. You're
30:32
pretty, yeah. No, she's gorgeous. Which one are
30:34
you? I don't. I don't
30:36
know. I don't know the one on the right one. We're
30:38
twins. Yeah. No, no. So
30:40
my mom's a social worker and she is
30:42
like, yes. Yes.
30:45
I'm getting it with everything. Yes.
30:47
She's an iconoclast in her own
30:49
right and she was always like,
30:52
my mom was a puberty educator
30:54
at one point and she gave
30:56
all the girls tiaras to celebrate
30:59
their menage instead of making a
31:01
decision. So she just always encouraged
31:03
me to be exactly what I wanted to be and
31:05
she let me have an iguana and she let me
31:07
take apart the VCR and
31:10
do all these crazy things. And so. Which one?
31:13
Yeah, oh, that's my iguana. Yeah, that
31:15
was, we had a contentious relationship
31:17
that we don't wanna talk about. You and the
31:19
iguana? Yeah, yeah. Very quickly, I wanna ask you
31:22
about Barbie because we loved you as weird Barbie.
31:24
Oh, thank you. What
31:27
was it like to be part of such a phenomena?
31:30
It was absolutely wild. Oh my gosh. The
31:32
weird Barbie was so much fun. I loved
31:34
it. It was my favorite. I
31:37
wasn't doing all those stunts with my own body
31:39
by the way. No,
31:41
no, oh my gosh, that was so fun. I mean,
31:43
look at the sets just to be on something that
31:45
was. Look at your makeup, it's so subtle. No, and
31:48
the hair, the hair's so awful. I
31:50
had that Barbie. That's the Barbie I
31:52
had. That's what my Barbie looked like.
31:56
Mine as well, I didn't even have them. They
31:58
were just destroyed. They were heavy. and
32:00
tails and the body parts on the
32:02
street. Yes. But no, it
32:05
was, I mean, the sets and
32:07
Greta Gerwig, the director, I went
32:09
to college with her and so she just called me and
32:11
she was like, I know. Amazing. Yes.
32:15
And she called me and
32:18
she was like, I'm doing the Barbie movie and I have
32:20
this Barbie for you. I don't know if you're gonna like
32:22
the idea. It's called Weird Barbie. And I was like, amen.
32:26
I've got my plane ticket already. When do
32:28
I show up? Because, hello,
32:30
we're Barbie. Oh my God. We're
32:33
making it. We're making it autobiographical. You
32:36
know what? You know what,
32:38
we're Barbie. You are welcome at
32:41
this weird ass table every time.
32:44
Yes. We're
32:48
all fans of yours. So it would be
32:51
quite a thing to have you for an
32:53
hour. And you as well. So think about
32:55
it. Thank you. I will. No, I'm stuck.
32:58
But our thanks to Kate
33:00
McKinnon, the Millicent Quibb
33:03
School of Etiquette for Young Ladies
33:05
of Mad Science is out today.
33:07
And you can scan the QR
33:10
code right there in
33:13
order to buy the book. You can
33:15
also check out the audiobook version
33:18
which Kate reads herself. We'll
33:20
try to see. We
33:23
will be right back. Do yourself a favor.
33:25
It's a lot of fun. Grab
33:27
it, we'll see you in a bit. Whoo!
33:30
Whoo! Whoo! Whoo! Whoo!
33:34
Whoo! Whoo! Whoo! Whoo!
33:37
Whoo! Whoo! Whoo!
33:41
Whoo! Whoo! Whoo! Welcome
33:44
back to new documentary. Patrice
33:46
the movie shines a much needed
33:48
light on the next phase
33:50
of marriage equality. People with
33:53
disabilities. It's all about
33:55
taking you on a journey with
33:57
someone you just have to meet. Take
34:00
a look. Hi,
34:02
my name is Patrice. I
34:07
am a totally cool person
34:09
with a disability who could
34:12
do most anything, with
34:14
the exception of bungee jumping,
34:17
pyrotechnics, and
34:20
uber-dangerous stunts, because
34:23
then I need a stunt double for that.
34:26
Yeah. Patrice
34:28
is a big magnet for people.
34:31
She is, hands down, the most
34:34
famous cross-guard in
34:36
Hamilton Township. She might as
34:38
well be Madonna. Please
34:44
welcome Patrice Jenner, the
34:47
movie's director, Ted
34:49
Passion. So,
34:53
Patrice, the film is called Patrice the Movie.
34:56
Patrice the Movie, yes. And
34:58
not only are you the star of this film, but
35:00
you're also credited as a scriptwriter and a
35:02
production designer. What's it like to see your
35:05
name up in lights like that on the
35:07
title of your very own movie? Tell us.
35:10
Well, words can't describe how
35:12
it is. It's the most
35:15
amazing thing ever. Yeah.
35:18
Right. I love that. And,
35:20
Patrice, clearly this is apparent now, but
35:22
your spirit shines through every inch of this film.
35:26
We also get to know your long-time partner, Gary, who's
35:28
here in the audience. And
35:30
we get to see
35:32
how much love and laughter there
35:34
is between the two of you. How did
35:37
you meet and what keeps you laughing? Because
35:39
I'm guessing you might be the impetus for
35:41
that. Well, me
35:43
and Gary met over 35 years ago in
35:47
a sheltered workshop for people
35:49
with disabilities. And because
35:51
we just hit it
35:53
off with our personalities we would just
35:55
start laughing at work. And
35:58
there were times that I'll supervise you. would
36:00
have to separate us and we
36:03
would still be laughing from the other side
36:05
of the room. And
36:07
the rest is history. And we
36:10
just have that kind of chemistry.
36:12
Yeah. That happens. Oh, I love
36:14
that. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow.
36:16
Wow. Wow. Now,
36:18
Ted, you're the director of this
36:20
wonderful film. And you and Patrice have known each other
36:22
for over 20 years. How
36:25
did you meet? That's right. We
36:27
met through Patrice's niece, who's a
36:29
brilliant singer-songwriter named Kimia Dawson, who I made
36:31
a music video for right out of college.
36:34
And so she would come to town a couple times a year.
36:37
We were friends. Patrice would come and hang out. And we just
36:39
got to know each other over the years. And
36:41
I just fell in love with her immediately. And
36:44
I always just felt like, oh, we should do something together. And
36:46
then a few years ago, I worked
36:48
on a series for Netflix called Warren Stories. And
36:51
we got Patrice in one of the episodes
36:53
and realized she's very comfortable on camera, as
36:55
it turns out, not a surprise. I couldn't
36:57
see that. And yeah, so the creator of
37:00
the show is
37:02
a friend of mine and a producer on the
37:04
project, Emily. We were just like, oh, maybe there's
37:06
something more to do with Patrice. And here we
37:09
are. And here you are. And it's an important
37:11
film, right, Ted? Because Patrice and
37:13
Gary want to live together and get
37:15
married, like countless other couples out there.
37:18
But as is revealed in the film,
37:20
that presents a major issue for them,
37:22
as well as for other people with
37:24
disabilities, which I don't think many people
37:26
know about until it's too late. Can
37:28
you tell us what that
37:30
situation looks like? Yeah, if you're disabled
37:32
in this country and you collect Social
37:34
Security benefits and you're on Medicaid, two
37:37
people collect benefits, get married together. Their benefits either
37:39
get cut or, depending on where they are in
37:41
the system, they could just lose their
37:44
benefits entirely. And they can
37:46
also lose their Medicaid. And so for most
37:48
couples, it's deciding between having health insurance or
37:50
getting to be together. And it's
37:52
not even just getting legally married. If you
37:55
even just live together, you're treated as married
37:57
by the system, even if it's not legal.
38:00
And so that's not an option
38:02
either. You can't even just move in together.
38:04
Yeah. Your benefits are taken away regardless. Well,
38:06
Patrice, you've been to Washington DC to officiate
38:09
a beautiful commitment ceremony for other couples in
38:11
love who come up against what you guys
38:13
call the marriage penalty. What has that been
38:15
like to be, and you've also done advocacy
38:18
work in DC. What was that experience like?
38:21
Well, that was an amazing experience
38:23
because I had never been to
38:26
Washington DC before. And
38:28
it was also great that a lot
38:30
of couples from all over the country
38:32
turned up. So there's a
38:35
lot of people that really want
38:37
to make this change. And
38:39
I think that this movie can help
38:41
make that change and help a lot
38:43
of people. Actually, as
38:45
a matter of fact. You
38:51
got some very surprising news last night. So
38:53
the film just came out yesterday on Hulu.
38:55
And at the end of the day, the
38:57
Social Security Administration put out a statement saying
39:00
we'd like to acknowledge Patrice Jeter and her
39:02
partner Gary and the makers of Patrice the
39:04
Movie and let the world know
39:06
that we are ready to make certain changes.
39:08
And we would like to remind you that
39:10
Congress is the ones that initiate those changes.
39:12
So as soon as Congress is ready, we
39:14
are happy to help them. So we're hoping
39:17
this is the beginning of that change. Oh,
39:19
that's new. Yeah, that's new. Thank
39:21
you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank
39:23
you. So
39:27
maybe we should say, since we've
39:29
had the
39:31
president on, we
39:34
can actually write a note to
39:37
remind him that maybe one of the things
39:39
he should think about doing before
39:42
he ends his term
39:45
is fixing this. Yeah. Yeah.
39:47
That's so nice of you. Yeah. So
39:51
let us see if we can push anything,
39:53
push anybody, and say this is what's going
39:56
on. This is one of the things that
39:58
happens, Patrice, when they want me. I need
40:00
to stop talking. I
40:02
slow down just because I'm bad.
40:05
But Patrice, the movie is
40:07
streaming right now on Hulu. And
40:10
if you don't have Hulu, get Hulu. Because
40:14
you're going to find out a lot of things that
40:16
are going to surprise you, and not all of them
40:18
are going to make you happy. So you can get
40:20
on board to help. We'll be right back. I'm
40:26
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40:28
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40:30
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40:32
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